A Ring In Time Kills Nine

Okay, I've been testing the waters, so to speak, on who all might be the reincarnations of the Principle Players in this little theatre of the absurd.

Without naming names...........

I will start with Arsinoe. So it seems I am correct in the assumption that her older sister, Cleo, put the fix in with the crowd and seeded some in the audience, from her camp, to get the normally blood thirsty Romans to jeer down the strangulation death of Arsinoe......In fact I can see that it was her who got her sent to Ephesus, to the safety of the Temple of Artemis...After all, at that point, she had Old Julius wrapped around her pretty little finger and could get what ever she wanted. Now knowing her sister did not hate her, just what would her soul have been like after she had been murdered, hearing that Cleopatra ordered her assassination as she bled to death on the temple steps. I would say over millenniums that a hidden anger and hatred would grow in the subconscious. It would twist each lifetime. This person would seek fame, yet could never accept it, and would go so far as to think everyone hated them.....A creative person, with a soul of a warrior.....Would this person be a man or woman now?

Mark Anthony..........Cleopatra once loved him. Yet when she found out he was the one who had Arsinoe killed, even after repeated denials over the years, when she found out...had proof...When Actium occurred, she walked out on him and left him to lose to Octavian. When he caught up with her, he was told she was dead. He fell on his sword....With his dying breath, Cleo made him admit to killing her sister. If Marcus Antonius was here,. NOW. What would he be like? He was a womanizer and murderer and lier in the old days...Would he be condemned to be reincarnated as a woman over and over. Maybe even to be born illegitimate .....As the Sands are shifted in Alexandria looking for his mummy, the cobwebs may be cleared from his mind to make up for his bad deeds. Would his love ever forgive him?

These two would be quite the twisted Victor/Victoria

Cleopatra-The Last Pharaoh.....Will have the final word. Dogged through the years by Octavian, lost everything because of his obsession with her. In the end determined that he would not have her, she made the ultimate sacrifice to put forth a terrible curse on Rome it's self. Be warned... When the light come to the darkness of the past.....a resurrection of the one will occur when the death of another goes forth.

A Tale of Two Sisters

On Egyptian Forum today, that is far to dogmatic on a certain point in history.....That point may only be of interest to the principle players, especially if they are incarnated now. The question now is where is Cleo buried in Taposiris. Arsinoe was buried in a far away land in an octagon tomb. Cleo, come out come out where ever you are!

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It seems that you chosen to believe the tabloid-esque documentary on the subject, concerning who killed Arsinoe. I guess it easier to believe, whole heartedly, in accounts by historians who wrote about things they did not witness , living centuries after the fact, as a source of all truths. Instead of taking a step back and look at things in a different way. A more logical way.

Concerning my thread on the Cleopatra Curse...I will not go into it again. After all it gets tedious hearing the bodies go THUD. In it I contested that Octavian was responsible for everyone's death from Julius Caesar ending in Cleopatra death. But I overlooked Arsinoe.

She was allowed to live years in the Temple by Cleo. Why at this point in time would she have her assassinated? Octavian would have had reason to at that point in time, just on the basic fact that his bother in law was embarrassing him and Rome for taking up with his enemy. Arsinoe's death would have been a calculated attempt to discredit both of them and in his wild hopes have the Egyptian people turn against Cleo for the violation of the temple with her own sister's blood. .

It's very possible too that Cleopatra, after the anger wore off on what Arninoe did as a child, decided to protect her. Maybe, eventually, in hopes to bringing her back home when she matured in character. Why do I state this? Because She was petitioned to save the High Priest’s life after the murder. He was responsible for her safety there and he failed. But he also knew the situation and knew she wouldn’t have had her killed.

You see Cleo had no family left. Both of her brothers were dead. Arsinoe was all that was left. Sure she had her kids and Mark Anthony, but they were Rome. Arsinoe was Egypt.

Something else odd about the documentary. It showed Arsinoe being drug out of the Temple and murdered on the steps. Would she not have made a bit of noise if they did it that way. The little warrior Princess who held off Julius Caesar for a short time would not have gone quietly…..Unless….They identified themselves as being from her sister and went outside the Temple to talk to them, so no one would hear. This means she was not at enmity with her as one believed. If Arsinoe would leave the protection of the Temple then she would be in danger of being used as a pawn by Octavian or just done in. She was a week point. The sad thing is that when she went out, the assassins, could very well have said to her that they had a ‘special’ message from Cleopatra, and that was the last thing she heard when she died.

Concerning The burial place of Arsinoe…. We are assuming that it was the Priests of the Temple, that she stayed in, that was responsible for her burial. Perhaps not. What if it was her sister who did it.

So do you wish to discuss this or believe the babbling of old fools who pass themselves off as historians of histories that has as much credence as the National Enquirer.

Oh by the way several people more have died with reference to Cleo and it seems to start at the debut of this documentary....But there is no such things as curses...Right?

It's funny you have a forum on a people who lived in a world of magic and wonder, yet you created something as dead as the mummies that lie beneath the sand. Totally disrespecting what Egypt was all about. This is the impression I get from the ones responding, you don't acknowledge that there are things beyond the physical and time it's self.

As a test of the spirits, I asked to have a sign if my current train of thought on the situation back then, was correct. It seemed someone or something was listening because I got an answer. Would you like to know how it manifested? On the variance of my birthday I asked this. I won't go into what this means. I don't think you are interested. Anyway I put a post about this on my blog. Then asked for a sign. Since it's celebs that seem to be the victim on this. I had a celeb die and come back to life, so to speak, on this date, which was her birthday too. On IMDB.com Kathy Bates has been reported as dead. Go to her message board if you don't believe me. They took off the death date on the main page, but it's still listed on the 'died 2009 list, so far. But the fans are talking about it on the board. Anyway it seems she is not. Dead. And as a twist, Kathy worked with someone I know that is involved in this......So I got my sign......And not a body dropped.. But then what is Unconditional Love?